TEACHING AND LEARNING ABOUT PLACE VALUE AT THE YEAR 4 LEVEL

Appendix 3: Overview showing the number of children who performed successfully in the place value activities.
Name of activity
Place value knowledge or skill
ENP group (5 children)
NEMP group (4 children)
Girls and Boys Showing multi-digit numbers with place value blocks
all
all
Population Reading a 4-digit number (2495)
all
3
Number C Writing a 4-digit number
all
all
Number C Writing a 6-digit number
2
0
Population Knowledge of all positional values in 2495
4
2
Calculator Ordering Ordering numbers
all
all
Girls and Boys Dividing an even number into two groups with place value blocks
4
3
Girls and Boys Dividing a number using regrouping with place value blocks
3
1
Speedo 1996 + 1
4
3
Speedo 1996 + 10
2
1
Speedo 1996 + 100
2
1
Speedo 1996 + 1000
2
2
Speedo 3402 – 1
4
2
Speedo 3402 – 10
2
1
Speedo 3402 – 100
3
1
Speedo 3402 - 1000
3
2
Number order Arrange four digits to make smallest possible number
all of 3 recorded
3
Number order Arrange four digits to make largest possible number
2 of 3 recorded
3
Number A 700 + 100
all
all
Number A 15 735 + 100
all
3
Number B 400 - 100
all
2
Number B 643 - 100
all
2
Number C 6 x 10
all
3
Number A 12 x 10
all
2
Number C 78 x 10
1
1
Number A 316 x 10
1
2
36 + 29 Adding 36 + 29
all
3
Motorway Problem-solving (estimating 9 x 98)
1
1

NEMP activity ENP children
NEMP children
36 + 29
A
B
C
D
E
A1
A2
A3
A4
Method used by the children to solve this problem


I’d probably do 30 + 20 = 50 and then 9 + 6 = 15 and ten onto fifty is sixty and five onto sixty is 65.
SPLIT.


I’d take away the 9 and 6 and add 20+30=50 and put on the 9+6 then it would be 65.

SPLIT

Gave 65. Explained that she added 30+20=50 and 9+6=15 so 50+15=65
SPLIT

Gave 65,smiled and said that… 9+6=15 and 2+3=5 (adding in tens) and that equals 65.
SPLIT

After a long think she gave 65 and explained… 36+10=46 plus ten equals 56 plus 9 is 65.
JUMP
x
3+2=5 (adding tens) and 9+6=15 so…515.

30+20=50 add on..repeats 9+6=15 … add on… the answer’s 65
SPLIT

it’s 65,put 29 under 36, add 6+9=15 put down 5 carry one, 1+3 is 4 and 2 is 6
Algorithm method

3+2 = 5 and 6+9 = 15 put it in working form, 9+6=15 put 5 down, carry 1 to 3,4+2=6…65

Algorithm method
Other strategies Another version of the above method where 50+15=65
No
No
No
No
No
No
No
No

Notes: ENP children
1. Split method dominant
2. Confident use of this mental strategy

Notes: NEMP children
1. Algorithms well established as a mental strategy
2. No other strategies


NEMP activity ENP children   NEMP children
Calculator Ordering A B C D E B1 B2 B3 B4
Arranged in order correctly y y y y y y y y Omitted from tape
Read the numbers
14
41
104
140
4010
4100
y y
But read
4100 as 400
and 401 then
as 4001
finally as
4100
y y y
but read
4100 as 4400
initially then
correctly
T/A forgot to
get her to
read the
answers
Read 4100 as
400 then
asked for if
that was
right.
y Omitted from tape

Notes:
ENP children

1. The question was unclear to some children; C needed some prompting to move the cards around before she established the right answer.
2. B needed some time to process the answer

NEMP children
3. B2 could read 4010 but not 4100. She knew 2 and 3-digit numbers and recognised the increasing size of digits.


NEMP activity ENP children   NEMP children
Girls & Boys A B C D E C1 C2 C3 C4
Make 26 with blocks
Tried to use all of the blocks as ones initially
Is it possible to have equal girls and boys in this class? not sure
Show what two equal sets from 26 would be
Picks one rod and takes away three. There would be 16 boys and 16 girls. Changed this to 13 because 16 was “too big”

Says she figured it out with her fingers.

Says he just “knew” that 13 was half of 26 and could not explain further.
Not sure x
Did not use the 26 that he had made up at first. Said 14 was the answer as 14+12=26; then gave 28 as the sum of 14 and 14.
Make 32 with blocks Made shape of 32 first.
Is it possible to have equal girls and boys in this class? Explains…15+15=30 and 1+1=2 so 16 is the answer. Initially could not see how to use blocks to make 16+16. Prompted, managed to make 2 groups of 16. not sure At first said no because there are “normally more girls than boys in a class”. x
Because 3 is not an even number
 
Girls & Boys (continued)

Show what two equal sets from 32 would be

Did not regroup with blocks. Said 16+16=32 because 2x10=20 and 2x6=12 which makes 32.
not sure              

Notes:
Early Numeracy Project children

1. A and B both used the split method to work out half of 32. 10+10=20 and 6+6=12 which makes32 therefore the answer is 16; or 15+15 =30 and 1+1=2, therefore 15=1=16. B couldn't work it out initially with blocks which may support the suggestion in Note 1.
2. D used the blocks as single units initially and then, once prompted, remembered and used them in the correct manner but then over-ruled his own correct answer.

NEMP children
1. Used place value blocks confidently to make up 26 and 32; C1 attempted a split method and came close to the correct answer.
2. C2 tried a split method but confused division with multiplication; C3 exchanged a ten block for a set of 10 ones and showed the correct answer.
3. C4 got stuck on 3 tens being an odd number and therefore not divisible by 2.


NEMP activity Early Numeracy Project children   NEMP children
Independent A B C D E A1 A2 A3 A4
Number A                  
700 + 100
15 735 + 100 n/a
12 x 100 n/a 112
316 x 100 4060 no attempt 4060 4060 n/a 416
Number B  
400-100   100 100
643 – 100 364 143
Number C  
6 x 10   0.6
78 x 10 150 700 no attempt 156 1.91 70 150
write in figures                  
five hundred and eighty
two thousand five hundred and eighteen
two hundred thousand and forty three 2340 no attempt 2243 n/a 2000043 2.140 2043

Notes:
ENP children

1. Adding and subtracting 100 well established
2. Multiplication of a 3-digit number by 10 was difficult for most; curiously same incorrect result for three children.
3. Could all write 3 and 4 digit numbers correctly.
4. Starting to establish multiplying of 10 and 100 correctly.

NEMP children
1. Adding 100 was established; most were successful with adding 100 to a 4 digit number.
2. Subtraction less secure than adding 100; subtracting century similar results.
3. 3 and 4 digit numbers well known; thousands concept and how it is written is not established yet.

NEMP activity ENP children   NEMP children
Motorway A B C D E A1 A2 A3 A4
estimate 9 x 98
966…I just thought that if 98 + 98 is… then used split method to work out 196 …
and I thought it would be quite big so got about 900.
x
188…I started with 98 and went all the way up to 188
x
Not sure. When I gave the prompt that 98 was close to a number that might make it easier she got 100 when asked what 9 X 100 was she got 900 then 995.
x
long thinking…166 because he used 9x8 and 9x9 = (72 + 81)
x
20…why? …I guessed
x
Looking at T/A …smiles and says 98x9. T/A asks for an estimate.
Says 500.
T/A asks How did you get that? I guessed…I did 9x95 it was too big so I just guessed
x
T/A repeats question.
Says 1000 and … looks away…100+26 or 24…T/A asks how did you get that? I just worked out that there would be 80…98…
child did not explain any more.
x
8172…
T/A asks for an explanation
I multiplied 8x9 then 9x9

T/A repeats question
Whispering to herself…
it’s 882…I timesed 9x98

Notes:
ENP children

1. This seemed a difficult one for most of the children.
2. Evidence of trying to use the split method to work it out by B; D tried to use the algorithm method.

NEMP children
1. Mental algorithms attempted by all children, only A4 was successful. A3 multiplied correctly but could not rename.

NEMP activity ENP children   NEMP children
Number Order A B C D E A1 A2 A3 A4
Arrange the digits 3 ,5, 8, 1 to make the smallest possible number lost this section of tape lost this section of tape
1835 read it correctly
x
Adds
5+ 8=13 Unsure
T/A prompt “Is that the biggest number you can make using all of the cards?
Still unsure

Initially unsure and starts to add 3 + 5 then multiplies 3x5=15 ..=8 is 23 +1 = 24
Read 1358 lost lost x  
Arrange the digits 3 ,5, 8, 1 to make the biggest possible number     8351 read it correctly Not sure of the question
Gets it and also changes answer to previous question
Read 8531 lost lost x  
Notes:
ENP children

1. This seemed to be an easy activity for the children

NEMP children
1. The question caused some confusion with A1 and A4. They both thought that they were being asked to add the digits together.
NEMP activity ENP children   NEMP children
Population A B C D E B1 B2 B3 B4
Read 2495 249…no… 24095
place value of 4
Needed the question clarified first.
40
100s um…400
x
It’s the second number.
Do you mean like what column is it in?
T / A repeats question…4 tens
place value of 5 x
It’s the last number so that’s what everything has.
x
one… I don’t know
place value of 9 9 tens x
not sure
x
one…not sure
place value of 2 2 x
not sure
2000
Notes:
ENP children

1. “What does (the number) stand for?” was not initially understood by children who later answered the question correctly.
2. Is the prompt in the NEMP manual unclear? E read “2” for the value of the 2 in 2495 and when asked how she got that explained that it was in the thousands column which would suggest that she understands more about place value than the question reveals.

NEMP children
1. Two children had difficulty understanding the question; B4 knew that the 2 was 2000 so she may have understood the other questions if she had been asked in another way.
NEMP activity ENP children   NEMP children
Speedo A B C D E A1 A2 A3 A4
1996 + 1 3906 3224
1996 + 10 12906 1916 2060 1916 9999 1906
1996 + 100 no attempt no attempt 2996 1600 99999 2006
1996 + 1000 no attempt no attempt no attempt 6000 400999
 
3402 - 1 4804   3403 4402
3402 - 10 13804 no attempt unclear 3412 12402 not attempted
3402 - 100 no attempt no attempt 3100 100402 3300
3402 - 1000 no attempt no attempt 2000 100402
Notes:
ENP children

1. Why use 1996 for the addition question? It involves two steps: adding and renaming as well for adding 10 and 100.
2. Why use 3402 for the same reason? Renaming with the take away ten question.
3. Suggest using 1546 and 3547 as questions that have only the place value component and do not rely on renaming as well.

NEMP children
1. Achieved slightly above the NEMP (2001) report results.
2. A wide range of answers given, with some six-figure numbers that showed a lack of understanding of larger numbers.
 

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